the W3C announced yesterday that the Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group has been officially launched. in case you're interested, the proposed charter is a great starting point to learn more. i am happy and proud to be listed as a proposed co-chair of the WG (together with IBM's arnaud le hors). i think this activity will be a pivotal point in the development of linked data, and interestingly, the driving force behind the working group has been the fact that linked data is probably considerably more interesting as a BI-like data integration platform than it is as an AI-like ontology/inference technology, and it's great to see that such a pragmatic view now has become the driving factor behind something as substantial as a W3C working group.
personally, what makes me most hopeful for the future of linked data on a much larger scale than so far is the very open attitude towards REST as expressed in the charter. this means that REST with its focus on encapsulating interaction semantics in media types now is readily available as a toolkit on which linked data can build. over are the days where every last bit in a linked data scenario had to be RDF, and if it were not, then things could not be linked data. this open attitude means that linked data now can grow much faster, can be more inclusive in its choice of components, and does not have to reinvent the wheel for every little piece of machinery that has to be put in place. most importantly, real-world developers will be able to ease into linked data comfortably, first finding a feed providing interesting data and useful services around it (updates, notification services, push services, ...), then happily using its entry-level metadata, and once they decide they really have found something of interest and value, they will encounter RDF when they dive into the actual payload.
linked data is a data model, and REST is an interaction model, and as such they are two nicely complementary parts. while it will be important to make sure that the data model itself is maintained at the payload level, many of the issues listed in the charter can be readily addressed by choosing existing and well-established standardized components (3/4/5/9/10/11 likely can be solved by using a combination of RFCs 4287/5005/5023 and some best practices how to use them). however, other issues may go right to the heart of RDF (for example the question of how to handle RDF granularity so that RDF documents
become part of RDF's model). whatever exactly we will be able to address and achieve in the group, i am really looking forward to pragmatically combine linked data and REST, and i hope i will be part of an activity that will take linked data from being the 1% of how people handle data integration and big data, to being the 99%.
Congrats Eric, I've been finding the LDBP and related OSLC work most interesting of late, IMHO it would definitely be worth keeping in touch the the RWW CG during this effort, since they are covering things like ACL and Patching RDF data - ad also have several projects using these approaches, including ones which are tied in with OSLC work via Sebastian.
Best,
Nathan
Posted by: Nathan | Friday, May 11, 2012 at 01:22
False dichotomies availeth nothing.
BI data integration is a point along a spectrum that also includes AI-like ontology inference.
In fact, in our work for customers and in our software product development in this area going back to 2004, we repeatedly observe and exploit a virtuous feedback cycle between using the RDF-SPARQL-OWL family of technologies to perform what you call "BI-like data integration" and then to perform "AI-like ontology/inference"...which invariably drives a new requirement for *more* BI-like data integration. Etc and etc.
In other words, semtech is badass because it powers integration *and* analytics. It will be less badass if people continue to insist upon rhetorical strategies and standardization moves that lop off half of the value proposition. Integration *and* analytics is better than integration alone.
In my view, overplaying and over-emphasizing this distinction is a common mistake and a bad approach. It's especially troubling if the distinction is improperly reflected in the charter of this new WG.
We're a vendor that has product offerings along many points of this spectrum and our ability to implement the standards that come out of this WG is bounded by the degree to which the WG's work enables *all* points along the spectrum, not just some of them.
Posted by: Kendall | Wednesday, May 16, 2012 at 07:54
i guess you were misreading my post a little bit, @kendall. i was trying to be clear (apparently not clear enough) that i am simply talking about how to design and implement interactions, not about the data model itself (quote: "while it will be important to make sure that the data model itself is maintained at the payload level, many of the issues listed in the charter can be readily addressed by choosing existing and well-established standardized components"). linked data is (as the name implies, i'd argue) a data model, whereas REST is all about driving interactions with a certain style of exchanging representations. look at atom and atompub and you can see how there are control structures (the syntax and semantics of atom's data model and the associated interactions in atompub), but the data model is mostly a question of the application itself. i would bet that a tiny fraction of atom/atompub services actually use atom's "data model" (which is very simple) internally. instead, they combine their (often very complex and sophisticated) back-end data model and services with an established and well-supported interaction model, thereby getting the most out of their sophisticated data handling, and atom's availability as a standard. trying to reinvent these mechanisms in a triple-only world not only would be a waste of time and effort, it also would disconnect that recreated ecosystem from the vast ecosystem of services and tools that are out there. linked data and all the wonderful things that can be done with it need to get more connected to those 99% of the world that are not linked data, and i think we have an excellent opportunity to move in that direction, should we choose to take the path of pragmatism over purism.
Posted by: dret | Tuesday, May 29, 2012 at 20:39